JMULV has the best advice in Game right now

Over the past few weeks, a mad research rampage into nightgame led me to the YouTube channel of a guy named John Mulvehill, aka JMULV. He’s an ex-RSD instructor that saw through the bullshit enough to not continue with them and started his own company called Efficient Pickup. That company went down when some of the guys associated with it were charged with rape and he was (allegedly falsely) accused of kidnapping, coercion, and lewdness. Seems like he’s been laying low for a while and has since branched out on his own.

Now, I can see JMULV rubbing people the wrong way:

  • He talks about his notch count ad nauseum, claiming to have 766 lifetime notches.
  • He’s prone to braggadocio.
  • He goes off on wild tangents in his videos and has a hard time expressing his points. Videos that should take 20 minutes take an hour and 20 minutes.
  • He comes off as a complete and utter sociopath.

I shook my head the first time I watched some of his videos. But the more I watched, the more I was impressed — you don’t get to 750+ notches without learning a thing or two along the way. And guess what? Dark triad guys tend to get laid a lot.

JMULV’s game can probably be best described as the best parts of RSD/Mystery Method, Blackdragon and Good Looking Loser mixed with dark triad and red pill concepts.

His magnum opus is a 5 hour, 14 minute (yes, I know) breakdown of his game:

I’ve watched the entire thing (on 1.5x speed, naturally), over the course of the last week, and I’m pretty floored.

I’ve never found a guy who sells products that doesn’t have some sort of bullshit in their philosophy. Even guys I learned the most from, like Blackdragon, Krauser, and Good Looking Loser have major flaws, in my opinion, with their systems.

JMULV is the only guy I’ve ever seen put a practical system together that combines multiple lead sources (night game, online game, and day game) that results in getting laid while minimizing time spent on women.

The advantage of JMULV’s underproduced, rambling videos is that you see him at his rawest. And better yet, it’s all actionable, practical advice. No fluff, no philosophy, no abstraction, like other gurus are fond of. I know a lot of guys aren’t going to have the patience to watch the entire video, so here’s the flow chart, and I’ll summarize below:

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Nightgame

Nightgame is definitely his forté and where I learned the most. This is his typical nightgame routine:

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  • He believes in very quick screening and closes. Here’s a good thread on the RooshV forum with a summary of his night game philosophy and here is a two-hour long webinar on it if you have more patience.
  • He opens with strong eye contact, vocal tonality, and body language, and immediately starts kino.
  • Assuming the girl reciprocates, he makes small talk and probes her logistics.
  • He plants the idea of her going home with him right away.
  • If she’s not interested at all, he takes the number and works it into his normal leads funnel.
  • If she is, he handles any objections, bounces her outside or to a second location, and then gives a false time constraint and bounces back to his place (insinuating that no sex will happen)
  • He’s realistic that it will be tough for most guys to pull consistently on a night out, and so will try to collect a bunch of numbers for his funnel. This is something I’ve never heard anyone else mention, but is completely true.

Online Game

  • He uses Tinder and Bumble with heavily-photoshopped, professionally-taken profile photos with good lighting
  • He uses several DHV photos that he takes in front of a green screen and photoshops in the background: him DJing at a huge event, skiing, standing in London
  • He’s tall, so he has one selfie emphasizing his height, taken in a suit.
  • His messaging is persistent and he goes for the number within 6-10 messages.

Daygame

  • His daygame is definitely the weakest part of his game. He doesn’t do it that much, only has 20 daygame lays total.
  • His openers are not great “Can I meet you real fast?” and he seems a bit nervous, but his tonality is good and he’s low energy and not excitable.
  • He DHVs like a madman with stuff like “I’m a DJ” and “I used to live in London” and similar.
  • He goes for the number really fast. 1-2 minutes. Doesn’t do much comfort-building. Probably gets a lot of weak leads.
  • He talks about “hired gun” game, basically gaming promoters or hostesses by insinuating that he organizes events and then getting their number, then running standard game from there.

Dates

  • He seeds the date with every interaction he has with a girl, i.e. during daygame and night game he gives them a preview of what they’re going to be doing on the date
  • Invites 90% of the girls he meets directly over to his house to “split a bottle of wine”.
  • The girls that don’t want to meet at his house, he takes them out, and then bounces them back to his house to “drink champagne” and gives a false time constraint

Retention/Building a Harem

  • Fucks women well the first time they have sex, and thereafter
  • Remains non-needy and doesn’t pedestalize women once they’re in rotation, i.e. doesn’t text her back right away, doesn’t comment when she sends nudes
  • Never commits to monogamy with any of the women in his rotation

There’s obviously a lot more, but that’s a summary of his thoughts on the key points. For more, I recommend watching his YouTube channel.

 

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35 thoughts on “JMULV has the best advice in Game right now

  1. Phantom

    Great article, I’ll definitely check this guy out. One thing that caught my eye was your belief that there are flaws in some of the most famous systems. What do you see as the major flaws in Krauser’s and Blackdragon’s systems?

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    1. Krauser: doesn’t focus enough on building sexual market value, inefficient (lots of hours pounding the streets), fast escalation and incongruency leads to a lot of LMR, doesn’t work as well on American girls, more suited for Former Soviet Union/Europeans, only one lead funnel – daygame

      Blackdragon: suited more towards older men looking for younger girls, two-dates are too conservative for the majority of younger girls, outdated advice (he himself has not actively dated in a few years), advice pertains mainly to messaging apps like OKCupid and Match which are going down the drain, only one lead funnel – online

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      1. I concur with this assessment, particularly BD’s since he’s pretty much been off the market and not updated his system. He’s also very low effort, very high numbers game, and I only find it to be effective in new cities when traveling. In my hometown, I’ve burned through all the hot OKC, Fetlife, Tinder, and Bumble girls and only a few dozen HBs join/week, even in a city of 5,000,000 people.

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  2. I understand your POV in regards to Krauser’s / LDM’s relative inefficiency in terms of getting lots of lays, when you compare it to finely tuned status based game. Keep in mind that daygame in general is going to be inherently less efficient than other forms of game that allow you to leverage more time and status into each girl. Daygame is also better than the generic “just let it happen” approach or the “just keep swiping on Tinder with a shitty profile” method that most guys do, and I haven’t found anyone with a more refined daygame method than the LDM guys.

    It does make sense for you to not focus on daygame though, given that you value lots of sex with high quality girls more than the thrill of the hunt that daygame gives. I’m looking forward to seeing the strides you make in new frontiers.

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  3. Just saw this from a backlink. I think you need to get your bullshit detector recalibrated because this guy is all smoke and mirrors. I watched 3 of his daygame infields: 2 outdoors where he’s taking Instagram picks with sloppy drunk girls in underwear, and a short number close of a tall sloppy blonde.

    They are awful game. Purely social, probably polite “here’s my number, go away” rejections. One of the 2-sets literally physically rejects him at the end (the “threesome” framing one) and the other two sets have even less sexual tension. Ignore the “tell” and focus on the “show””. These show awful game on uninterested girls.

    Do the maths as well, per your data-driven approach. You said he claims 766 lays? Ok, let’s say he’s 35 now and started getting laid when he was 15, giving him an active sex life of 20 years. That’s wildly favourable assumptions in his favour, but make the calculation easier.

    766 lays in 7300 days, or one new girl every 9.5 days. Consistently, over 20 years.

    Non-stop. That’s the average, not a one-month hot streak. That average includes learning the game, having a job, getting ill, getting sick of it, having runs of bad luck, spending time with girls you see more than once, having dates, getting flaked on.

    He looks younger than 35 to me (is his real age in public domain?) so the implied average is probably more like one every 5 or 7 days. And this from a guy who appears to have really crappy game and aside from his height, no obvious value. I’m pretty sure a man capable of banging girls at that rate would look considerably better in set or be trading on higher personal value.

    So, I’ve spent a total of 15 minutes of my life looking into this guy and I’m calling bullshit. If I’m missing something feel free to let me know. Would be nice to find at least one RSD guy who’s not full of shit.

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    1. His daygame is trash, but from what I know he obsessively focuses on upping his laycount and is utterly ruthless about it. He says “only 20” of his lays have come from daygame. The rest have come from nightgame in alcoholic environments, which he has a finely tuned system for getting from open-to-close (he also has no qualms about lying; DHVs like a madman; has scripted responses to common objections girls give him),and online game (he has no qualms about using photoshopped and greenscreen pics). He started in his late 20s in 2009 from Mystery Method and apparently achieved his “first 100 lays” from that. From what I can tell, he has a lot of free time to do pickup. Used to have a high end engineering job designing spacecraft or something like that. Also is a self-described hedonist and shameless alcoholic.

      This other PUA named Manwhore used to live with him and wrote this article; they’ve had some drama in the past so it’s probably a bit biased: http://www.manwhore.org/pua-sociopath/

      He’s not RSD by the way, just used to post on the forums and had a massive falling out with them. He likes to trashtalk them often. There was this scandal: https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-pickup-artist-too-sleazy-for-pickup-artists

      The Daily Beast isn’t the most trustworthy source however, he disputes all of that in a video on one of his channels, though it’s hard to know what to believe

      Apparently he met Tom Torero while he was learning from Michael Sartain in Vegas. He compulsively trashtalks all other PUAs. In regards to Torero he said he was ‘weird’ and ‘loserish’ (can’t remember exactly). I’m not sure if he has an opinion on you.

      He has a decently large following on Facebook — almost 3,000 members on his group “JMULV Pickup”

      That’s all I know. I’m not a fan, FYI. I’m a guy who has looked at a wide variety of figures in the community, and currently adhere to LDM advice more than the others.

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    2. Krauser, I thought the same at first. I was like “this guy is a complete fraud”. But the more I look into him, the more I realize he’s just obsessive in a way that I’ve never seen before. He has the personality and drive to make his laycount as high as possible due to his upbringing and childhood (he’s also somewhat of a sociopath).

      His Instagram shows enough proof that it’s hard to overlook:
      https://www.instagram.com/jmulv_pickup/

      Yes, his daygame is bad. But he admits he doesn’t really do gaygame, and gets most of his lays from nightgame and online game.

      I’ve seen his infields. His nightgame is solid. He just runs basic guy game, screening logistics, being a normal dude, and filtering for girls that are down to fuck. Oh, and he lies A TON. He lies about being a DJ, knowing famous people, creating fake status, baiting and switching logistics, etc. Dumb girls fall for it.

      I’ve also created a Tinder profile with the exact photos he uses for Tinder (he provided them in one of his YouTube videos). He matched a couple hot girls (7+). Not out of the question that he would be able to get these girls out on dates and bang them.

      So all in all, it’s basically:
      1. Be normal-looking
      2. Be 6’4″
      3. Be white
      4. Have zero life other than pickup, go out every night a week for 10 years in a row, plus supplementing with online game and scheduling dates.

      P.S. this is an article written about him by an ex-roommate. Provides some more details into his psyche: http://www.manwhore.org/pua-sociopath/

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      1. KL

        Occam’s Razor: He is a sociopath who lies to women, so he probably lies to you too. You are contorting your mind to believe him, instead of accepting the obvious conclusion.

        He claimed over 150 notches in one year. He plead guilty to sexual coercion, after being charged with more serious offenses. The Daily Beast article quoted his post about nasty coercive stuff. Two instructors listed on his Efficient Pickup website have been convicted of rape and sentenced to 8 years in prison. Based on this (and ManWhore’s article), I suspect that JMULV coerces women into sex. Of course he would lie to customers!

        JMULV sells advice and photoshops pictures for marketing purposes. GLL, Torero, and McQueen use models too. So those pictures don’t mean much.

        JMULV’s Tinder advice sucks.
        https://lookism.net/Thread-Holy-shit-JMULv-ex-RSD-intern-coach-is-actually-legit
        Nevertheless, he probably gets laid by targeting drunk women in Vegas clubs, even if his daygame and online game suck. I saw a review saying his bootcamp sucked, and was basically run by his girlfriend. The Daily Beast article indicates he is 33-34 now.

        Krauser spotted the phony GLL videos, and probably has good judgement about JMULV’s pics and videos too.

        “he’s an obsessive sociopath who makes up for childhood insecurities by filling them with validation from women [and gullible men].”

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        1. >> Occam’s Razor: He is a sociopath who lies to women, so he probably lies to you too.

          Invalid Occam’s Razor. I lie to women, but I don’t lie to my friends, I don’t lie to other men in the community, and I don’t lie about my craft. The sexual marketplace is a dog-eat-dog world.

          >> I suspect that JMULV coerces women into sex. Of course he would lie to customers!

          We all coerce women into sex, KL.

          >> JMULV’s Tinder advice sucks.
          https://lookism.net/Thread-Holy-shit-JMULv-ex-RSD-intern-coach-is-actually-legit

          I posted in that thread. Read the last page. I created a Tinder with his photos and matched a couple hot girls.

          >> Nevertheless, he probably gets laid by targeting drunk women in Vegas clubs, even if his daygame and online game suck.

          So you admit he does get laid… let me ask you this: if he had banged, say, 500 women, do you think he has any advantage to lie and say it’s 788?

          Not sure what your argument is here, at the end of the day.

          You’ve yet to make any legitimate accusations – only fear, uncertainty, and doubt.

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  4. Dark triad success is a manosphere fairy story. I had a look at that Instagram. Most of the women have a strong smell of escort. My money is that he’s banging hookers and claiming them as notches. It’s not just the women he’s lying to. But I suppose you’ll have to wait until he trips up and leaves a smoking gun before you’ll stop believing.

    And now it’s 780 lays since 2009? This is comedy.

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    1. >> Dark triad success is a manosphere fairy story.

      Not sure what you mean here. Can you expand on this?

      >> Most of the women have a strong smell of escort.

      Well, most escorts share a similar look to girls that go to clubs and high-end bars.

      He’s not exactly going after the salt-of-the-earth, dreamy, mouse girls that sit in cafés during the day.

      >> And now it’s 780 lays since 2009? This is comedy.

      I don’t think he was a complete virgin before discovering Game, but still, one new girl a week is not out of the question. The dude is a complete outlier in every single way. Like I said, he’s an obsessive sociopath who makes up for childhood insecurities by filling them with validation from women. The reports are that he would go out for seven days a week for a month straight when he lived in Vegas, sometimes pulling two girls a night.

      I always appreciate your skepticism in calling out frauds in the community (Daniel Blake, Deepak Wayne, Berba, etc.). With those guys, it’s pretty clear after 20 seconds of watching them talk that they’re socially fucked and don’t really get laid. But JMULV has the profile of a completely normal guy that knows the game inside and out.

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  5. We disagree, that’s fine. My bullshit detector is buzzing off the charts with this guy. He does come off as socially retarded to me.

    “He started in his late 20s in 2009 from Mystery Method and apparently achieved his “first 100 lays” from that” = 8 years = 2,920 days = one new girl every 3.7 days

    “The reports are that…” not from credible people. Liars surround themselves with fools and other liars.

    Why is it so hard to believe that an admitted sociopathic hedonistic liar would also be lying to you? That an obvious narcissist who puts on an admitted false front with women isn’t doing exactly the same thing to the internet? That a guy with a very well-paid job and poor social skills wouldn’t just pay for hookers?

    Look at the Instagram harder. Look how many girls are clearly uncomfortable in posture and facial expression. How many show their ass but not their face (big hooker tell). Look at his infields where he’s getting IG-type photos with girls he’ll obviously never see again. He’s constructing a fake front and you’ve bought it.

    “If something looks too good to be true, it probably is”

    Everywhere he goes on holiday, within two days he’s had a threesome. No one else does that. Sorry, one type of person does… P4P sex tourists.

    You’re absolutely welcome to disagree with me. I’m telling you he’s a con man. Make of that whatever you will.

    BTW, “dark triad” is bullshit. You hear stories of all these mega-alpha thugs getting the hot women but the evidence rarely bears this out. Almost every time, the women are horrendous (below the man’s own looks by a long way). Look into those stories of incarcerated drug dealers banging the female guards, or the cholo drug dealers giving drugs to skanky white girls (that’s P4P not game). It’s marketing bullshit dangling the exotic “other” in front of cubicle jockey PUA customers, just another “”secret system”.

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    1. >> not from credible people. Liars surround themselves with fools and other liars.

      The confirmations come from guys that aren’t his friends. Every single guy that has seen him infield and gamed with him has vouched for his results, including Todd Valentine, the only real guy within RSD I respect.

      JMULV used to have a blog when he first started out with detailed field reports of his lays. He’s also posted videos and reports of numerous lays on his YouTube channel and in his products.

      It’s Occam’s razor here, really. There are enough reports of him to account for several hundred lays. What does he have to gain from lying about the other 450, exactly? Especially knowing he’d be exposed for doing so.

      >> Everywhere he goes on holiday, within two days he’s had a threesome.

      Where does he say that?

      >> BTW, “dark triad” is bullshit. You hear stories of all these mega-alpha thugs getting the hot women but the evidence rarely bears this out.

      I’ve never heard stories like that, and when I say dark triad I’m not talking about thugs, gangsters, and drunk dealers. The latter aren’t smart enough to fuck women with any consistency.

      What we’re talking about here is a guy with extremely high IQ who is also a dark triad sociopath.

      Guys who are “dark triad” enough to lie about social status and be an asshole to women get laid in America. If I remember correctly, you’ve never gamed in the larger American cities (Vegas, Miami, NYC, Los Angeles, etc.). You really have to see it to believe it.

      Be tall, be white, be average or above average looking, fake your social status, be an asshole, go out to clubs, make a Tinder and Bumble account, and you can fuck a new girl every night of the week in the land of the red, white, and blue. It’s really not hard.

      Hell, take me as an example: I’m short, bald, have a below-average face, and I have 51 notches in a year and a half, 90% from online game. All of this was done with a more-than-full-time job and lots of hobbies, and includes at least two dry spells of 2+ months each where I took a step back to focus on work and other hobbies.

      What 99% of guys lack is consistency. After a couple months or years in the game, they return to their jobs, or they get a girlfriend, or they get bored of it. You admit the same feelings yourself in many blog posts. The only difference between JMULV and the rest is that he’s insane enough to have continued doing this for nine years straight.

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        1. KL

          JMULV lies a TON and has bad daygame, but somehow he is good and honest about nightgame. He has graphs to prove it! What would he gain by lying, besides building his ego and extracting money from gullible suckers? What would he lose?

          JMULV claims 150 women per year, despite downtime from arrests, court appearances, bootcamps, fights, and making Youtube videos. It sure didn’t leave much time for his girlfriend.

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          1. >> JMULV claims 150 women per year, despite downtime from arrests, court appearances, bootcamps, fights, and making Youtube videos. It sure didn’t leave much time for his girlfriend.

            None of the things you listed take that much time. I’ll repeat: this is a man who has LITERALLY devoted his life to women. 99.9% of guys do not have the stamina to do that.

            Watch this video:

            On his most packed days, he stacks four women per day.

            If you’ve never met someone that is close to this obsessive, you wouldn’t believe it’s possible. Only other guy I know who comes close is literally married (open marriage), gets like one to two nights a week to fuck girls, and still fucks 30 girls a year, sometimes stacking 3-5 dates in one night.

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  6. KL

    “I don’t lie about my craft.”

    You blog seems honest and you don’t come off like a sociopath.

    “We all coerce women into sex.”

    Yikes, I hope not! Two Efficient Pickup instructors specialized in raping drunk and unconcious women. I suspect JMULV is similar.
    http://sluthate.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=1007456

    Vegas has a shortage of local women. Getting 150+ girls per year requires pulling tourists directly to a convenient hotel room. Getting numbers is fruitless because tourists will flake and will certainly not come to your house before leaving town.

    Sorry, matching a couple hot women on Tinder is far from getting 150 actual dates. You are straining to make a plausibility argument. Some nights the club is dead. Other nights you stand in line forever. Large numbers of women require perfect logistics and ideal venues and money for clubs and taxi’s. But JMULV doesn’t emphasize that. He bullshits about daygame and Tinder game and then inflates numbers by a factor of 5-10. If he lies a little, then he lies a lot. Read about The GManifesto and Nasa Test Pilot at RVF.

    Neil Strauss’s book “The Game” indicates that Tyler and Papa stayed in their rooms making websites, and rarely got dates. Mystery himself got 12 per year. https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-22635.htm. Krauser and Paul Janka got around 20, using systems for streamlined approaches and logistics. But EfficientPickup.com claims their instructors get 50-100 per year (http://web.archive.org/web/20131108052950/http:/efficientpickup.com/instructors/). GTFO.

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  7. >> Vegas has a shortage of local women.

    JMULV only lived for a couple years in Vegas I believe. Other than that, he’s lived all over: San Diego, Puerto Rico, New York, Philadelphia, Europe etc.

    >> Sorry, matching a couple hot women on Tinder is far from getting 150 actual dates. You are straining to make a plausibility argument.

    I swiped for like 15 minutes total with a fake account. Add Bumble and more time into the mix and you’re talking about a pretty decent supplement to nightgame.

    >> Neil Strauss’s book “The Game” indicates that Tyler and Papa stayed in their rooms making websites, and rarely got dates. Mystery himself got 12 per year. https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-22635.htm. Krauser and Paul Janka got around 20, using systems for streamlined approaches and logistics.

    Of course. Most PUAs don’t actually have high laycounts, because either they get too caught up in theorizing and teaching PUA, or they have other hobbies/interests. Or they’re just not high value enough to get a high volume of numbers.

    Again, I’ll go back to myself as an example: 20+ notches a year, intermediate game, I’m not attractive, and I literally make girls my lowest priority (have never ditched other plans to hang out with a girl, and I have a ton of hobbies and a business that takes up the majority of my time).

    If I focused on this full time I could easily do 50 this year JUST from online, and another 50 if I went out every night of the week.

    99.9% of guys don’t have the stamina or interest in doing that. Me included. But JMULV does.

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  8. KL

    JMULV’s does not pull from daygame, his online game is slow; he gets 90% from night game. Three night notches per week is only possible in a tourist city like Las Vegas with perpetual nightlife, or perhaps during Spring Break. It is impossible to achieve year-round in San Diego, Philadelphia, or while travelling in unfamiliar “regular” European cities. There are holidays, slow nights, slow seasons, etc., not to mention work, illness, hobbies, or repeat dates. While Vegas tourist night game may be great, phone numbers from tourists are useless.

    Efficient Pickup claimed astronomical laycounts for all six instructors. Two were foreign guys they barely knew, and three were subsequently convicted of sex crimes. JMULV is a sociopathic liar.

    Tinder and Bumble are not additive. In any city, one will dominate the market. You wisely picked the lowest-hanging fruit. It would take more than double the frustration to double your numbers by chasing less interested targets. Plus, you would run into collisions, where three women are available one night, and none the next. Juggling women is time-consuming.

    After a few dozen women, I would try to lock-down a nice attractive girlfriend instead of wasting time on mediocre strangers.

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  9. >> Three night notches per week is only possible in a tourist city like Las Vegas with perpetual nightlife, or perhaps during Spring Break.

    He gets most of his lays from dates that were arranged from nightgame numbers — not single night pulls. He talks about this in multiple videos.

    >> Efficient Pickup claimed astronomical laycounts for all six instructors.

    No idea about the other instructors. Only one who knows how many notches they have is the person themselves. I’m talking only about JMULV.

    >> Plus, you would run into collisions, where three women are available one night, and none the next.

    Date stacking. Pretty easy.

    >> Juggling women is time-consuming.

    Not if you have a system and apply it. I have far from an efficient system, am available only 1-3 nights a week on any given week, and still do fine.

    >> After a few dozen women, I would try to lock-down a nice attractive girlfriend instead of wasting time on mediocre strangers.

    LOL at the idea of a girlfriend in the age of rampant hypergamy

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  10. KL

    Your system is stacks 1-2 new dates per week and convert 25%-50%. JMULV sees rotation girls once per week and his main 2-4 times per week. His statistics require a new close every free night. Do the math!

    Vegas is smaller than Frisco, and has a surplus of local men. Locals do not hang out in the big clubs. That leaves tourists. Tourist phone numbers are useless. A drunk tourist might forget you, find a better guy, leave town, or stick with friends. Girls are flaky, and nightclub tourists are flakes on steroids. JMULV’s story and location do not match his statistics.

    Many cute girls want a boyfriend. But maybe you just like novelty.

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  11. K

    Just curious pancake, since you seem to think a lot like me:
    1. Why do you think that GLL has major flaws in his system? I really think he’s got some of the best, most straight forward stuff out here. As for BD, I’m pretty sure he just recently updated his e-book on online dating last year.

    Also, what would you recommend for a decently attractive, jacked black dude going to uni to do to get his lay count up? I wanna holla at the girl at uni but I’ve been reading too much game theory and I feel like I just need to put all the sites down and just move, you know?

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    1. Good Looking Loser has flaws because he has a narrow scope – his game only really works if you are an American guy with above-average value gaming in the US (I guess that’s the same for JMULV honestly). He also recommends weird shit like bathmates to make your cack bigger and Kratom.

      Read “Conquer Your Campus”. College = social circle, build out a great social circle and pick girls off from it that come to you.

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      1. K

        Fair enough. But, to be fair I think he’s one of the only guys out here that doesn’t exaggerate how good you have to be to get laid. There’s hella websites that think you have to be the best 1% at everything to get poon and GLL was one of the only guys who really made it explicitly good that you have to be above average, but not the cream of the crop. Even you’ve said that you’re a self-admitted “ugly guy” and you still got tail (quite a bit more than the average of if I may add).

        Usually when you get into these gaming sites you see one of two things: “Looks don’t matter, it’s all game” (a ridiculous position) or “Looks are the only thing that matters, fuck game” (also a ridiculous position). They tend to take one stance or another and focus heavily on it. Anyways, I’m just rambling. I’m not necessarily a fan of this JMULV guy but I’d like to learn some practical techniques to get my foot in the door so to speak so any other sites you’d recommend? I’ll check out the Conquer Your Campus ty.

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  12. KL

    I hope you guys know that Chris “Good Looking Loser” Deoudes made fake pickup videos. Let me know if you need me to elaborate.

    That doesn’t mean he is ugly, or can’t get laid. JMULV and GLL immersed themselves in pickup; it became their identity. They commercialized it, and lied or made fake videos to promote their brands. You probably don’t remember Mehow, who went from virgin to pick-up instructor in a couple months. Neil Strauss taught game workshops before he even got laid with the Mystery Method. So have some healthy skepticism.

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    1. Of course GLL made fake videos. It’s easy to tell which are fake and which are real.

      JMULV’s stuff is real.

      You’re talking to the biggest skeptic in the community. Skepticism is one of my main interests. I have a very good handle on reality.

      JMULV is the real deal.

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  13. J

    Really eye opening to see that legends like Krauser think Jmulv must be faking numbers.

    What I take from this is that people fail to see what happens when you a) optimize for one single purpose b) commit. And combine those.

    People who think numbers cant be real are focusing to the trees instead of a forest. There is people with less skills, less optimization and less commitment achieved about same numbers for one year. I’m regular guy from a northern europe and I had 50 girls last year and I heard about game year ago and I didn’t even go out much. I just optimized. If this is a fact then that’s about enough evidence his numbers can easily be correct.

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  14. anthony

    Hey guy’s late to the party Since I don’t really troll pua forums anymore. I’m an old school RSD guy even worked for them at the time David Bond was working with them or trying to work for them along with a lot of other offshoots of RSD like honest signals, Tay Social, Frank night game(Pickup Decoded) etc.

    For me, I was a lot better before RSD as a “natural” but I got married and found RSD after the marriage ended. Pretty much I got “stuck in my head” and I helped RSD TODD on boot camps with Frank HARO(pickup decoded) despite only having 1 lay count in 4 years. The biggest factor was I was just a normal guy, I could just hang out and play darts or ping pong.

    Basically, found JMULV and he taught me how to go back to “normal” on his videos but I did notice when speaking to him he seemed a bit sociopathic but I have seen him out and have to say I’m almost 100% he only goes for dumb girls because like his videos he says the same shit over and over again to them, it works really well on stupid chicks. His system makes it impossible to actually connect or find out if you really like the girl or just in it for her body.

    Doing exactly what JMULV said in his older system the one Chris Parker stole, I pulled a lot of average looking women or women who didn’t value themselves or have anything going on. I had 10 new girls in a month despite living at home. Once I met a smart girl or a girl who didn’t care about social status his game didn’t work at all.

    lastly I know a lot of good guys who said JMULV was alone on new years with his friend sonny who is super red pill. So that tells me these women he meets wants nothing to do with him. contrast any guy who is actually good with women has them out and has long-term things like AFC ADAM.

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  15. Classylady

    He seems to be a narcissistic piece of shit. I doubt his “lay count” is even half that number. The girls that he pulls are probably mindless worn out bar flies and he brags about sleeping with porn stars….what a conquest. He couldn’t come close to being with a women like me, and I assure you I am no wall flower. I would scare a man like that because I can actually carry on an intelligent conversation and I wouldn’t just drop with my legs in the air…I have more class than that. If these poor men want to really learn how to get amazing women maybe they should listen to what wows women by listening to an actual womens’ point of view. His penis probably has so many diseases on it that it could be a science project. I predict that he will be chasing women around, basically assaulting them, with his old man body and bald head until he dies alone and his cats eat him. I can only imagine the kind of relationship he must have with his mother, let’s hope he doesn’t have a sister…poor thing. Buying into his mindless, rambling rants would be the worst investment ever. Men, take your money and find a nice girl. Treat her to an amazing night instead of wasting your money on any of this mans’ advice. Quality over quantity!

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