Text Game: Non-reactive and non-needy replies increase attraction

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It is amazing how long it took me to figure out that staying non-reactive and non-needy has the potential to increase (or at least not decrease) attraction via text.

This was a girl I matched on Tinder back in October. She showed lukewarm attraction the whole time, flaking on me twice and wanting me to meet her halfway for a date. Tonight, we matched again (I reset my account every month or so in order to have a second chance with girls).

A year ago, I would have offered up an alternate day after receiving a tenuous reply like the one she offered after I said when I was free. Something like “or we could also do Wednesday if that works better”.

This time, I stuck to my guns and she caved immediately.

Is this all confirmation bias? Maybe she would have changed her mind anyway? No way to know. But this is a part of my text game I’ve been refining over the last few months and the results are too promising to ignore. Now, every time I send a message, I think:

What would a guy with so many options he couldn’t care less text? What would a guy with so many irons in the fire he wouldn’t care if this girl flaked text?

WWCT. What Would Chad Text?

 

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How My Game Will — or Won’t — Evolve in 2018

Almost nothing in my lifestyle puts me in contact with hot women:

I work with all men.

I go to a rundown, sweaty, dirty gym that is 80% men, where the few girls that use the weight room don’t take their headphones out.

I live in the literal worst city in the US for attractive women (oh, and it’s also majority male). The neighborhood I live in is the worst part of town where any girl over a 5 doesn’t set foot.

My hobbies are majority male-dominated — the only women that are in my social circles are either lesbians or social justice warrior, intellectual-types (great for friends, but no sexual attraction there).

I rarely go to bars, I don’t spend money on clubs — hell, I don’t even drink.

And I fucking love it.

Most guys in the community find how I live absolutely insane, but living this ascetic existence is how I’ve most enjoyed life. My utter lack of contact with women was the reason I was convinced I would be a virgin forever, until I stumbled upon RooshV’s blog back in 2010, adding it to my RSS feed and thinking “I know I’ll be able to put this into practice someday…”

That’s why, when I downloaded Bumble while hanging out with two friends back in 2016, online game instantly appealed to me. Suddenly, I was getting direct feedback that girls were actually willing to fuck me based on nothing more than four low-quality photos and a dumb 100-word bio.

What’s better, all I had to do to get their pants off was spend an hour with them showing I wasn’t a low-value moron, and then I could fuck them, they’d leave, and I’d never have to hang out with them again.

2016 was about learning game without changing my lifestyle. I continued my busy hobbies and schedule, only inviting girls over on nights where I was bored and didn’t have anything else to do.

In 2017, I wanted more. I wasn’t getting the quality I wanted. I was tired of banging chubbies and average girls, knowing that my value was far higher than theirs, while higher-quality girls were flaking on me.

So I upped my game. I made an Instagram and started taking contrived photos and building my follower base to display status. I bought new clothes. I took girls out on dates. They sucked. I recorded them, sent them to other guys for feedback, and improved them. I DHVed about being an entrepreneur, a traveler, a citizen of the world. I experimented with daygame and nightgame.

It worked. Over the last few weeks, I’ve been so busy with girls I haven’t had time to think about much else.

Yet I’m still not where I want to be. I want higher quality. I want stunners. “Models”. Sorority girls. Instagram thots. I want to keep girls around, I want validation, I want nudes, I want threesomes, I want more texts saying “I wish you were here so I could take your dick.”

Here’s the issue:

I will reach a point in 2018 where I cannot get to where I want to be without changing my lifestyle.

I entered the game with a lifelong frame that girls were the furthest thing from a priority in my life. I’ve never pined after a girl, never had a crush, never passed notes or sent love letters, never had a monogamous relationship, never put a girl first, never did any of the Beta shit that so many guys that swallow the Pill apparently do.

Rather than chase women, I’ve spent the last ten years building an immense amount of value. Ten years of dedication to the iron. Business. Money. Confidence. Travel. Zero inhibition.

I rarely got laid when I was younger because I hid all of this from the world. I’m humble. I’m not a self-promoter. I stay quiet, preferring to lurk in the shadows and help other guys, while taking none of the credit. As soon as I learned Game, I learned to unhide this value, and then came the women. I was surprised to learn that everything I had been doing to build myself as a man was actually somewhat attractive to women as well — I just had to put myself in a position to show it to them. Of course, once any normal girl figures out I’m a maniac Sigma with a weird social circle and weird hobbies after sleeping me with a couple times, it’s tough to keep her around, but I keep enough in the rotation that it often doesn’t matter.

My struggle, now, will be that I will develop my Game to such a level where it will be impossible to improve the quality of the women I’m sleeping with without becoming someone I’m not.

The path to hotties has become quite clear to me over the past few months. It is not paved with shirtless Tinder photos and inviting girls over for wine, nor with Yad stops on San Francisco sidewalks. No, the path to hotties is paved with social circle and status.

If I were to drop everything and focus my life on only fucking hot girls, where’s what I would do:

Drop my current hobbies, change my clothing style and backstory, and moving to a completely new city, change my friends group, rent a million+ dollar apartment, organize parties, throw money around, promote in clubs, and become the king of my new social circle. This would actually be pretty easy to do, and I could accomplish it in under two years. I would slay with the best of them, with girls like I described in my previous post: I’m not attracting the types of girls I want to attract.

But I’m a Sigma, so this would be treason. I live a unique and ascetic life because it brings me joy, and if changing this would mean converting into some vapid Chad Thundercock whose only interests include cracking open a cold one with the boys, boat shoes, and American football…. all for what? Top-shelf vagina?

Having to hide who I actually am around the type of people that this lifestyle would attract would be devastating. I would be intellectually stunted.

It doesn’t seem worth it. So for 2018, I’ll keep my lifestyle intact and continue to improve my game. When I reach a point where an upward trajectory seems impossible, only then will I consider a change.

JMULV has the best advice in Game right now

Over the past few weeks, a mad research rampage into nightgame led me to the YouTube channel of a guy named John Mulvehill, aka JMULV. He’s an ex-RSD instructor that saw through the bullshit enough to not continue with them and started his own company called Efficient Pickup. That company went down when some of the guys associated with it were charged with rape and he was (allegedly falsely) accused of kidnapping, coercion, and lewdness. Seems like he’s been laying low for a while and has since branched out on his own.

Now, I can see JMULV rubbing people the wrong way:

  • He talks about his notch count ad nauseum, claiming to have 766 lifetime notches.
  • He’s prone to braggadocio.
  • He goes off on wild tangents in his videos and has a hard time expressing his points. Videos that should take 20 minutes take an hour and 20 minutes.
  • He comes off as a complete and utter sociopath.

I shook my head the first time I watched some of his videos. But the more I watched, the more I was impressed — you don’t get to 750+ notches without learning a thing or two along the way. And guess what? Dark triad guys tend to get laid a lot.

JMULV’s game can probably be best described as the best parts of RSD/Mystery Method, Blackdragon and Good Looking Loser mixed with dark triad and red pill concepts.

His magnum opus is a 5 hour, 14 minute (yes, I know) breakdown of his game:

I’ve watched the entire thing (on 1.5x speed, naturally), over the course of the last week, and I’m pretty floored.

I’ve never found a guy who sells products that doesn’t have some sort of bullshit in their philosophy. Even guys I learned the most from, like Blackdragon, Krauser, and Good Looking Loser have major flaws, in my opinion, with their systems.

JMULV is the only guy I’ve ever seen put a practical system together that combines multiple lead sources (night game, online game, and day game) that results in getting laid while minimizing time spent on women.

The advantage of JMULV’s underproduced, rambling videos is that you see him at his rawest. And better yet, it’s all actionable, practical advice. No fluff, no philosophy, no abstraction, like other gurus are fond of. I know a lot of guys aren’t going to have the patience to watch the entire video, so here’s the flow chart, and I’ll summarize below:

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Nightgame

Nightgame is definitely his forté and where I learned the most. This is his typical nightgame routine:

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  • He believes in very quick screening and closes. Here’s a good thread on the RooshV forum with a summary of his night game philosophy and here is a two-hour long webinar on it if you have more patience.
  • He opens with strong eye contact, vocal tonality, and body language, and immediately starts kino.
  • Assuming the girl reciprocates, he makes small talk and probes her logistics.
  • He plants the idea of her going home with him right away.
  • If she’s not interested at all, he takes the number and works it into his normal leads funnel.
  • If she is, he handles any objections, bounces her outside or to a second location, and then gives a false time constraint and bounces back to his place (insinuating that no sex will happen)
  • He’s realistic that it will be tough for most guys to pull consistently on a night out, and so will try to collect a bunch of numbers for his funnel. This is something I’ve never heard anyone else mention, but is completely true.

Online Game

  • He uses Tinder and Bumble with heavily-photoshopped, professionally-taken profile photos with good lighting
  • He uses several DHV photos that he takes in front of a green screen and photoshops in the background: him DJing at a huge event, skiing, standing in London
  • He’s tall, so he has one selfie emphasizing his height, taken in a suit.
  • His messaging is persistent and he goes for the number within 6-10 messages.

Daygame

  • His daygame is definitely the weakest part of his game. He doesn’t do it that much, only has 20 daygame lays total.
  • His openers are not great “Can I meet you real fast?” and he seems a bit nervous, but his tonality is good and he’s low energy and not excitable.
  • He DHVs like a madman with stuff like “I’m a DJ” and “I used to live in London” and similar.
  • He goes for the number really fast. 1-2 minutes. Doesn’t do much comfort-building. Probably gets a lot of weak leads.
  • He talks about “hired gun” game, basically gaming promoters or hostesses by insinuating that he organizes events and then getting their number, then running standard game from there.

Dates

  • He seeds the date with every interaction he has with a girl, i.e. during daygame and night game he gives them a preview of what they’re going to be doing on the date
  • Invites 90% of the girls he meets directly over to his house to “split a bottle of wine”.
  • The girls that don’t want to meet at his house, he takes them out, and then bounces them back to his house to “drink champagne” and gives a false time constraint

Retention/Building a Harem

  • Fucks women well the first time they have sex, and thereafter
  • Remains non-needy and doesn’t pedestalize women once they’re in rotation, i.e. doesn’t text her back right away, doesn’t comment when she sends nudes
  • Never commits to monogamy with any of the women in his rotation

There’s obviously a lot more, but that’s a summary of his thoughts on the key points. For more, I recommend watching his YouTube channel.